Ich

Laura and Jim will be hosting the May meeting this Saturday the 12th and it will be the usual of food, drinks, raffle and fun.
 
Doors will be open at 6:00 pm for social talk and the meeting will start at 7:00.  Parking gets a little tight and the city says you can't park on 4th but there is a parking lot a block away.   Meeting is usually held in the backyard so feel free to bring your favorite lawn chair, weather permitting of course.

If you need address/directions, contact a club member.

Best if you park at Mini Mall (where the spaghetti establishment use to be)
 
You will get to see his new frag tank set up in the making.
 
Hope to see you there!

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[Jeff]

My new neon goby came in with ich.  How do you treat saltwater ich?  I know it's different than freshwater.  I am a bad man and didn't qt him, so he's in with softy corals and live rock and another neon goby.  I have heard of several different treatments - freshwater dips, hypo-salinity, and chemical warfare.  Which one, or combination, works best?  Thanks.

[luvnsalt]

Do you have a QT tank???

[angelscrx]

You can feed him garlic soaked food and add vitamin c to the tank.  I wouldn't recommend dosing or treating in the tank.  A QT tank would be ideal but I know how hard they can be to catch.  You can buy both of these things at PetsMart or the LFS.

[Rico]

Actually you can treat the tank with Kent Marine Rx-P.  It has the same compound that is used in Pepper Spray.  It works by causing the fish to develop a thicker slime coating and the ich are not able to attach as easy.  It is typically safe in reef tanks with the exception of star fish.  You need to go through the full treatment cycle and do a water change.

Rick

[Jeff]

No QT tank, but I know have a QT bucket.  I dipped him in fresh RO water for 4 minutes and back in the QT bucket.  The QT bucket has water straight from the tank.  Upon further inspection, it doesn't look quite like ich.  It looks like small chunks of skin hanging off of him.  Any other suggestions or anything?

[angelscrx]

No QT tank, but I know have a QT bucket.  I dipped him in fresh RO water for 4 minutes and back in the QT bucket.  The QT bucket has water straight from the tank.  Upon further inspection, it doesn't look quite like ich.  It looks like small chunks of skin hanging off of him.  Any other suggestions or anything?

Sounds like he might have had rough ride to your tank.  Or been neat up.  If nothing bothers him any more he should heal himself.

[Jeff]

He was in good shape when I got him.  Colored up real nice and stuff after he got used to the tank.  he didn't have the wierd stuff on him when I got him.

[angelscrx]

Oh wait this is a neon goby/engineer goby right?  They tend to dig in the sand and they can tunnel under rocks.  What you might be seeing is slime coated sand stuck to him.  My Engineers get it all the time when they are digging or tunneling.  My Mandarin buries herself at night and wakes up with it but she manages to work it off of her through out the day.

[Jeff]

neon goby, not engineer goby.  The scientific name is Elactinus  (formerly gobiosoma) oceanops.  The guys in the pic for my avatar.

[Ed]

My new neon goby came in with ich.  How do you treat saltwater ich?  I know it's different than freshwater.  I am a bad man and didn't qt him, so he's in with softy corals and live rock and another neon goby.  I have heard of several different treatments - freshwater dips, hypo-salinity, and chemical warfare.  Which one, or combination, works best?  Thanks.

hyposalinity gradually works best in my oppinon.    When fish come in from transport sometimes the transporter will have salinity at lower ratios.
Usually around 1.020.    They do this for less stress on animals.   A lot of shippers are shipping fish in fresh oxygen.   If you get a choice, recommend it.    

Things like keeping the temperture stable, keeping air moving for good oxygen or gas exchange help.   The longer the fish is bagged, the more acceptable they are to ph shock.   That drastic change in ph burns the gill plates on the fish.  

I noticed Aqua Tropics made a few drip lines for sale to help acclimate fish.   If you do not quarantine your fish, I would recommend one of these.   Fish like us, when tired, overworked, usually get sick.  
Try to create a less stressful environment, creating hiding places, stable temperatures and making slow changes.    Again, like Angel said if you can get fish to eat a healthy food, you usually can whip problem.  
A UV running will kill free flowing parasites.   A parasite has to have a host to survive.  
That my oppionion, I hope the little guy pulls out of it.
Sincerely,
Ed

[angelscrx]

neon goby, not engineer goby.  The scientific name is Elactinus  (formerly gobiosoma) oceanops.  The guys in the pic for my avatar.

Looks like an engineer except the stripes are green whereas the engineer's is white when they are young.  I'd like to see pis of them when they get older to see if the coloration changes.  Thanks

[Jeff]

these guys are full size already.  They only get 2".  Engineer gobies are a completely different species.

[angelscrx]

Well i'll be, that is pretty cool.  Thanks for sharing.

[Jeff]

No prob.  They are the cutest little guys.  They are supposedly pretty hardy, even though I am not having any luck with them.  They are cute and will try to clean your hand like a skunk cleaner shrimp too.

[Ed]

No prob.  They are the cutest little guys.  They are supposedly pretty hardy, even though I am not having any luck with them.  They are cute and will try to clean your hand like a skunk cleaner shrimp too.

Jeff,
    How are they doing now?