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January Meeting 1/14/12 @ 6PM! - OFFICER ELECTIONS!

Beau is hosting the January Meeting this coming Saturday the 14th at 6PM.  It will be BYOB as well as a snack to share and raffle items are always welcome.  It has been requested that there be “NO SHOES” on the carpet due to it being a whitish color.

He doesn’t have a tank to view but we will have plenty to discuss in hopes that it will get the NEW YEAR off to a good start.  The annual membership fees are due, so now would be a good time to get them in to our Treasurer Stacey Hahn.   Fees are $20 per individual or $25 per family

Attendance was low at the election meeting in November and no votes were taken at December’s meeting so we have decided to take votes for anyone that didn’t get the opportunity in November and will be attending this meeting.  
We will add the votes to November’s ballots and the announcement will be made during the meeting so we can go forward.
NOMINATIONS:
President:  Jim & Nacho
V. President: Ed, Bo & Daniel Leigey
Treasurer: Stacey
Secretary: Carmen & Angie

Let’s hope the New Year brings new members, returning members and new ideas.  The club is always willing to take suggestions to get the most out of the hobby we all enjoy.

Please PM Nate C. by clicking here for directions if you are not a club member.  

Club members can click here to go to the club member only forum to get directions.

Hope to see you all there!


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Author Topic: Balancing Alk and Calcium  (Read 1051 times)
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« on: November 14, 2003, 12:58:28 am »

After last nights discussion about the levels in my tank, and since I just added a Calcium Reactor, and have no clue about Alk and Calc, I decided to do some studying.  I found a very good article that really helped me understand the differnce and similarities of Calcium and Alkalinity in you Reef Tanks.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2003, 02:02:18 am »

Cool, some of the most important elements in the tank. Don't try to bash your head in to get them perfectly balanced either. Becuase most often, you ain't going to get it perfectly.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2003, 02:26:24 pm »

I have heard that magnesium levels affect calcium levels readings?   I think that may have been the problem with guy in this article?  :?:  I am only guessing.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2003, 04:35:52 pm »

From RANDY HOLMES-FARLEY, Ph.D.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/chem.htm

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Magnesium in Marine Aquaria

Magnesium has tremendous biological and chemical relevance to reef aquaria. Fortunately for reefkeepers, it is present in abundance in seawater. There is, in fact, a fairly high turnover of magnesium in reef aquaria with rapidly calcifying organisms. The primary reason that magnesium is not more of a daily concern to aquarists is that the reservoir of magnesium in seawater is very large. Magnesium might be compared to a large lake, with the lake level only slowly responding to changes in inputs from rivers and export via evaporation and the outlet. Consequently, maintenance of magnesium levels is not typically a rapidly developing problem. If using an appropriate salt mix, it may never become a problem for many aquarists.


Meaning that magnesium is normally not a thing for any of use to be concerned with.

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The other major source is calcium supplements. Many of these supplements contain magnesium, either by “accident” (as in the case of calcium carbonate with impurities of magnesium carbonate that is used in CaCO3/CO2 reactors) or because magnesium is intentionally added by manufacturers.


Then if you perform recommended water changes, these levels will balance out, unless you use a bad salt mix.

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Another potential source of magnesium is fish food. Magnesium is present in many such foods at fairly high concentrations, but not enough to have a significant impact on typical levels of magnesium (~1285 ppm).


This means that even when you feed your aquarium large amounts of food that contains large amounts of magnesium, this will not impact the levels in your system. Probable only adding organic and inorganic phosphates and increasing nitrates would be you concern here.

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A 100-gallon aquarium contains about a pound of magnesium! In order to raise that same aquarium by 200 ppm of magnesium, one would need to add on the order of 2 pounds of dry magnesium salts!


Which shows that the increasing or decreasing of  magnesium is a very slow process and it would take a sever change to the chemistry to the system to get it to change.

Randy then concludes with the idea that aquarium keepers are probable more concerned with increased magnesium levels then depleted levels.
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Conclusions

Magnesium is an important ion for reef aquarists. In addition to its many biological functions, it serves to prevent the excessive precipitation of calcium carbonate from both seawater and aquarium water. Since both calcium and alkalinity are very important to organisms that we keep, making sure that they are not lost to excessive precipitation is an important part of aquarium husbandry.


It is my belief that any on that has problems with magnesium in their systems is directly related to their lack of good reef tank husbandry. (Water Changes)

Remember the old saying, "The solution to pollution is dilution"? The same is true when one does good water changes using RO/DI and good saltwater mixes. Then one would never have to worry with playing scientist with chemicals other then calcium/alk.
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