Atlantic Tang!

Laura and Jim will be hosting the May meeting this Saturday the 12th and it will be the usual of food, drinks, raffle and fun.
 
Doors will be open at 6:00 pm for social talk and the meeting will start at 7:00.  Parking gets a little tight and the city says you can't park on 4th but there is a parking lot a block away.   Meeting is usually held in the backyard so feel free to bring your favorite lawn chair, weather permitting of course.

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Best if you park at Mini Mall (where the spaghetti establishment use to be)
 
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[The Apprentice]

Hi guys need a little help I have this 2" Nice little Yellow Atlantic Tang that thinks he is King of the sea at least in my 75 tank his problem is He dosen't eat Nori??? or any other prepared foods not even Mysis.

However he has devastated my Purple kelp and a 5"-7" rock full of green algea that kind of looks like Maidens hair Any body have any extra Kelp or any ideas on what to feed this little dynamo??? He is always going  full blast tru the tank just don't want to starve him..Ideas???

[angelscrx]

Is this the guy you are trying to feed Cualerpa to?  Sounds like a picky eater!

[angelscrx]

Did find some info on them though.

The Blue Tang, the Caribbean Blue Tang or Atlantic Blue Tang is moderately difficult to keep. They seem to be more delicate than the Yellow or Regal Tangs.

 It is important that you feed Tangs a good variety of live, frozen, and prepared formula foods with emphasis on vegetables and spirulina. Best to feed small amounts several times a day. I suggest offering more algae, such as nori, or Gracilaria, soaked in Selcon.  

Mainly found grazing on algae. Will accept brine shrimp, mysis, plankton, and krill. After acclimation they will usually eat all kinds of foods including flakes.

   Usually found in pairs or small groups, very seldom seen in groups of more than 10 fish.

This fish is generally rarely available and is fairly expensive. (so where did you get yours?)

[The Apprentice]

Hi Angel Just got back from the big tri-cities..This little guy has got to sample Mysis shrimp, Prime reef , Every flavor & color of Nori Grape calaripa, Chetomorpha, Red Kelp. And he will readily eat Regular Calaripa
Green sea grass and Some of the red Kelp Finicky eater :evil:
I do soak my food in Selcon and Kent Garlic I haven't found what Gracilaria is and haven't found any for sale so still looking into this one I am going to Portland this week end so i will check that out I did get some diffrent Sea grass from Rick tonight so i will try it out tomarrow.
I got the little bugger at www.saltwaterfish.com he was on sale for 20$
Thanks Angel now help me find this Gracilaria....Jeff

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_11_03/product_info.php?products_id=773&parent_category=4&category_search=61&root_parent_id=4&PHPSESSID=85ba25e30492aaf853618a072c8634cd

Did find some info on them though.

The Blue Tang, the Caribbean Blue Tang or Atlantic Blue Tang is moderately difficult to keep. They seem to be more delicate than the Yellow or Regal Tangs.

 It is important that you feed Tangs a good variety of live, frozen, and prepared formula foods with emphasis on vegetables and spirulina. Best to feed small amounts several times a day. I suggest offering more algae, such as nori, or Gracilaria, soaked in Selcon.  

Mainly found grazing on algae. Will accept brine shrimp, mysis, plankton, and krill. After acclimation they will usually eat all kinds of foods including flakes.

   Usually found in pairs or small groups, very seldom seen in groups of more than 10 fish.

This fish is generally rarely available and is fairly expensive. (so where did you get yours?)

[The Apprentice]

Thats mr super picky eater  :evil:


On the hunt for some Gracilaria if this new Sea grass dosent do the trick
I hope he is more hungrier in the morning :?

Is this the guy you are trying to feed Cualerpa to?  Sounds like a picky eater!

[The Apprentice]

We lost him today, I tried evry thing ? I belive he may have been caught with  Cyanide  :evil:


Don't know what we will do next we do want to put a tang in the 75 but has to be of the smaller tang species

[VickiG]

We lost him today, I tried evry thing ? I belive he may have been caught with  Cyanide  :evil:

Oh, man - that is too bad, Jeff.  What a beautiful fish - sorry you lost him.  Is there any way for us to know when buying fish if the LFS uses a source that gets chemically-caught fish?  I sure would want to let the LFS know what happened - how lond did you have him and will they offer a replacement etc?  Sure sounds like you did everything you could to get him a varied diet etc.  Hope the next go-round is better for you guys.

[The Apprentice]

I bought him off the net @ Saltwaterfish.com  I had him for a little over 2 weeks He was very active but just a extremly finicky eater, I was told this could be a sign of Cyanide Poision.. Lessons learned  Local fish stores do have a better guarantee. It is just harder to get Rare fish from our LFS they have limited supplyers. I have sent a e-mail to Saltwater I will pass on what they have to say..Jeff

We lost him today, I tried evry thing ? I belive he may have been caught with  Cyanide  :evil:

Oh, man - that is too bad, Jeff.  What a beautiful fish - sorry you lost him.  Is there any way for us to know when buying fish if the LFS uses a source that gets chemically-caught fish?  I sure would want to let the LFS know what happened - how lond did you have him and will they offer a replacement etc?  Sure sounds like you did everything you could to get him a varied diet etc.  Hope the next go-round is better for you guys.

[angelscrx]

Cyanides are used to capture live fish near coral reefs for the aquarium and seafood market. In this method, a diver uses a large, needleless syringe to squirt a cyanide solution into areas where the fish are hiding, stunning them so that they can be easily gathered. Environmental organizations decry the practice, as do responsible aquarists and aquarium dealers. Many fish caught in this fashion die either immediately or in shipping. Those that survive to find their way into pet stores often die from shock, or from massive digestive damage. The high concentrations of cyanide on reefs so harvested has also resulted in cases of cyanide poisioning among local fishermen and their families.
For every saltwater fish that makes it to the collector's home or office aquarium, as many as nine more die and poisonous cyanide residue is left behind to kill other fish, marinelife and living coral. What's more, fish harvested in this way are damaged and weakened, leaving them more susceptible to death in transit, in the aquarium store or with the hobbyist/owner.

Clinical Signs
Increased respiration; loss of normal body color; presence of discrete white spots (freshwater or marine Ich); scratching on tank bottom or on objects; lethargic behavior; white tufts or strands on body [Fungus]; dustlike "peppered" spots on body surface, having a yellowish cast [Oodinium].

Treatment
Not too many options out there for cyanide poisoning.  Only one I found was KPD-28 Methylene Blue. At http://www.novalek.com/kpd28.htm

Hope that helps!

[VickiG]

... Those that survive to find their way into pet stores often die from shock, or from massive digestive damage.

Interesting info, Angel. I've read some articles on this, but this really sums it up well and that part about massive digestive damage could certainly explain why Jeff's poor little guy didn't feel like eating anything, even though Jeff obviously tried every possible food to get him to eat.  I hope this info helps others - thanks Angel!

[angelscrx]

Thanks VickiG

[The Apprentice]

Thanks for the Post Angel I belive that Digestive Damage was the cause.

Cyanides are used to capture live fish near coral reefs for the aquarium and seafood market. In this method, a diver uses a large, needleless syringe to squirt a cyanide solution into areas where the fish are hiding, stunning them so that they can be easily gathered. Environmental organizations decry the practice, as do responsible aquarists and aquarium dealers. Many fish caught in this fashion die either immediately or in shipping. Those that survive to find their way into pet stores often die from shock, or from massive digestive damage. The high concentrations of cyanide on reefs so harvested has also resulted in cases of cyanide poisioning among local fishermen and their families.
For every saltwater fish that makes it to the collector's home or office aquarium, as many as nine more die and poisonous cyanide residue is left behind to kill other fish, marinelife and living coral. What's more, fish harvested in this way are damaged and weakened, leaving them more susceptible to death in transit, in the aquarium store or with the hobbyist/owner.

Clinical Signs
Increased respiration; loss of normal body color; presence of discrete white spots (freshwater or marine Ich); scratching on tank bottom or on objects; lethargic behavior; white tufts or strands on body [Fungus]; dustlike "peppered" spots on body surface, having a yellowish cast [Oodinium].

Treatment
Not too many options out there for cyanide poisoning.  Only one I found was KPD-28 Methylene Blue. At http://www.novalek.com/kpd28.htm

Hope that helps!

[The Apprentice]

I took some pics of my Atlantic Tang I will post Updated shots It is currently starting to change color from the yellow to the blue...This one is a clutz always running into my sps and knocking them down. Nothing Gracefull here but I do like him

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[Zulreef]

I took some pics of my Atlantic Tang I will post Updated shots It is currently starting to change color from the yellow to the blue...This one is a clutz always running into my sps and knocking them down. Nothing Gracefull here but I do like him

Wow!!!.... very nice your tank.

[The Apprentice]

Thanks Zul  

Wow!!!.... very nice your tank. [/quote]