Ich outbreak at Petland in Pasco

Beau is hosting the January Meeting this coming Saturday the 14th at 6PM.  It will be BYOB as well as a snack to share and raffle items are always welcome.  It has been requested that there be “NO SHOES” on the carpet due to it being a whitish color.

He doesn’t have a tank to view but we will have plenty to discuss in hopes that it will get the NEW YEAR off to a good start.  The annual membership fees are due, so now would be a good time to get them in to our Treasurer Stacey Hahn.   Fees are $20 per individual or $25 per family

Attendance was low at the election meeting in November and no votes were taken at December’s meeting so we have decided to take votes for anyone that didn’t get the opportunity in November and will be attending this meeting.  
We will add the votes to November’s ballots and the announcement will be made during the meeting so we can go forward.
NOMINATIONS:
President:  Jim & Nacho
V. President: Ed, Bo & Daniel Leigey
Treasurer: Stacey
Secretary: Carmen & Angie

Let’s hope the New Year brings new members, returning members and new ideas.  The club is always willing to take suggestions to get the most out of the hobby we all enjoy.

Please PM Nate C. by clicking here for directions if you are not a club member.  

Club members can click here to go to the club member only forum to get directions.

Hope to see you all there!

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[fogish]

You can pull all of your fish and put them in hospital tanks for a minimum of 6 weeks, let your display tank go fallow, and that will cause the Ich/Crypto to starve to death. You have to be on top of water changes and perfect water quality in the hospital tanks, good filtration and only glass, no substrate or rock. Completely empty and clean the hospital tanks every 2-4 days, after 6 weeks you should have no Ich left alive in the display tank. You only have to remove the fish, that is what the Crypto feeds on, it can remain dormant for only so long before it has to find a food source. Stop treating the tank, you will just stress the fish more. Water quality should be perfect first. Remove other factors of stress next and then you can finally try other treatments, but not a shotgun approach like you have. I do not know of anyone having any real success with the herbal and reef safe type Ich treatments.

I am sorry for your losses, it drove me mad at my stores to lose a store pet fish that seemed to know me by sight and behave differently over anyone else. Good luck.

[The Apprentice]

Thanks for the tips Frog fish i will try to answer each of your questions in RED

You can pull all of your fish and put them in hospital tanks for a minimum of 6 weeks, let your display tank go fallow,I cant get to all fish as I have 4-5 mated gobies with pistol shrimps if you disturb these guys it is usually terminal i know. and that will cause the Ich/Crypto to starve to death. You have to be on top of water changes and perfect water quality I have perfect water quality 0 phosphate  0 nitrates as i have free R0-DI water and I do weekly changes just to keep my water in spec for Calcium and magnesium levels . IE I don't dose my corals or have a reactor just free water my only cost is salt in the hospital tanks, good filtration and only glass, no substrate or rock. Completely empty and clean the hospital tanks every 2-4 days, after 6 weeks you should have no Ich left alive in the display tank. You only have to remove the fish, that is what the Crypto feeds on, it can remain dormant for only so long before it has to find a food source. Stop treating the tank, you will just stress the fish more.I have no way to separate this established tank so this is my recourse Water quality should be perfect first.IT is I have far more water testing means than you unless you work for some laboratory or have some one like Nalco chemicals or Hach lab equipment to seek answers from Remove other factors of stress nextWhat stress 6+ year old tank with no fish changes no other adjustments? and then you can finally try other treatments,What treatments? but not a shotgun approach like you have.I have no other idea to treat a tank that I cant break down. I do not know of anyone having any real success with the herbal and reef safe type Ich treatments.I understand thank you for this

I am sorry for your losses, it drove me mad at my stores to lose a store pet fish that seemed to know me by sight and behave differently over anyone else. Good luck.

I need it

[luvnsalt]

Wow Jeff! This is really sad! You have kinda been one of the "ICONS" in the club with your goregous tank! I am so sorry you are having troubles now. You will beat this I am sure of it! You are a great hobbyist who cares about his tank/livestock/critters...You'll beat it. I just hope you don't lose anymore! Good Luck.

[The Apprentice]

Thank you Dasha I don't see my self as a Icon but I have been very diligent about keeping it up and stable through the years My first book was The New Marine Aquarium by Michael S. Paletta and it stressed and i still have my 50 gallon Quarantine tank. I just never thought to use it on snails. I hope to get it turned around thanks for the pep talk...Jeff

Wow Jeff! This is really sad! You have kinda been one of the "ICONS" in the club with your goregous tank! I am so sorry you are having troubles now. You will beat this I am sure of it! You are a great hobbyist who cares about his tank/livestock/critters...You'll beat it. I just hope you don't lose anymore! Good Luck.

[Nate C.]

Supposedly heavy garlic additions to food will help with Ich from some of the things I have read.  You could try that, if nothing else, the fish sure seem to like it.  We add it to the food as a regular thing, along with Selcon to help keep the Tangs fat and healthy.

[The Apprentice]

Thanks Nate I am adding Garlic,Selcon,Zoe, and dosing the tank with Vitamin C as well

Supposedly heavy garlic additions to food will help with Ich from some of the things I have read.  You could try that, if nothing else, the fish sure seem to like it.  We add it to the food as a regular thing, along with Selcon to help keep the Tangs fat and healthy.

[Ed]

Ah Man!  Sorry for your Loss Jeff.     Jeff, I would love to do a road trip to shops with ya and see if we can find you another one.   

[The Apprentice]

Ah Man!  Sorry for your Loss Jeff.     Jeff, I would love to do a road trip to shops with ya and see if we can find you another one.   

Thank you Ed someday I plan on doing that, But for now I have to get this tank healed. The Tangs are looking beter but the clowns are still in full stress. Sherri's 10" Cow fish is finally eating as well.

[fogish]

Alright here are some more ideas: use UV, Ozone, Garlic and Metronidazole/Flagyl soaked food. Metronidazole fed for extended periods of time can cause problems since it is an anti-biotic. Go ahead and use them all and hopefully it will cut down the population to the point that they are no longer a fatal problem. You should get about 6 months of "immunity" for your fish after all of this subsides but after that they are susceptible to an infestation again. That is basically everything I have got. Good luck and I hope you are over the hump on this.